Is it possible also have some videos talking about chipping & pitching? He's the model swing I strive for. There is NO SPECIFIC PATTERN for broad chested golfers. The shoulders ideally turn at 90-degrees to the top of the swing. I checked, and indeed running a club from my chest though my belt buckle has the head touching my left leg as you demonstrated. Watching the Stadler video convinces me to go back to my natural, upright motion. Secondly, with arm laying on top of chest, the arm does not need to roll out around the chest as we go back in backswing. It never is! Swing Faster And Stop Coming Over The Top Watch on Kyle Morris, named by Golf Digest as one of "America's Best Young Instructors" shows why the use of ones chest too much in the swing can lead to coming over the top and a lack of speed. I had never heard of this setup before and found it promoted a steeper plan for me which is good as I tend to get a little laid off and stuck. Clear editor. Much appreciated! The Mrs. Was right, but we are all golfers here, so that's what we do, no need for 2nd post. But for the purposes of this article, were going to gloss over grip, assuming you have the details of hand position already figured out. Among Boomer's timeless lessons was . So try to base your decision on your need for mobility, not so much on how wide your shoulders are. [/quote] I do have a touch strong but not real strong took a look in the mirror it appeared too strong because of the left arm hanging or relaxed too much. Body Turn in Golf Swing - The Golf Fix. Michael, Im not sure changing anything here would make you hit it further. 1. When I watch the professionals most dont seem to have such a position, in fact they look a little slouched and bent over in the upper thoracic/neck area (Phil, Ernie Els). MEMBER REVIEWS: Cleveland Frontline Elite Putters! good luck and stay in touch. Taking nothing away from their records or great swings, Phil and Ernie are admittedly a little overweight up top and may not be awesome role models in the posture department. You can post now and register later. Stay in touch. The problem all along has been the foundation. The T-square approach is simpler for a wide range of players. As you land inhale (breath in) and absorb the weight into your heels before you jump again. Herman, Brian Smock has a great swing and has a thick chest. a brilliant swing. XXIO X Series 5 Wood! [quote name='MizunoJunky' timestamp='1386361482' post='8259595'] I've got a large chest and big arms, right now 6'1" about 230lbs but I played football at 275lbs. Then repeat it with your eyes shut and try to imagine you are swinging a golf club. One-Piece is a term used to describe moving the hands, arms and club as a single unit with no hinge in the early phases of backswing. Much appreciated. Ping TR Anser 1966/ 34 The mirror can really be informative. [quote name='Hstead' timestamp='1385096954' post='8188390'] Usually I work out all winter and barely touch the weights during the golf season, so things get slightly better as the summer goes on (I can probably swing back to about the 10:00 position). If you did not rotate the arms on the backswing, you'd only be able to raise the arms to about chest level. This tried and tested method of coaching has helped many golfers achieve their personal goals and beyond Maybe we can get her to chime in? They are also very dependent on impact, and just after impact body positioning, because they can't maintain the angles for long. I also checked out Craig Stadler's, and he, too, is very steep. [quote name='sblack5' timestamp='1385096461' post='8188352'] In Photo 2 I'm using a credit card, which is thin enough to demand that you keep that left shoulder and upper arm connected to the torso, but light enough to not interfere with the swing. I was glad to see him win. Problem for me is getting arms moving before the right shoulder which then causes my left bicep hits my pec very quickly and everything stops. This motion gets you into a fully coiled position at the top of your backswing. Over time, not playing nearly as much as my kids grew up, I lost the muscle memory for my natural stance. I had some issues and knew something didnt feel right in set up. He played at Central Arkansas, where he was a Backer. So how do we setup to make a golf swing and avoid becoming a tourist attraction like the Leaning Tower? Thanks! A stronger grip tends to push the hands farther forward as its the only position that feels comfortable. The driver is defintely tougher to time everything. I haven't asked for a refund yet since it isn't really Dans fault. Excess knee flex will ruin your motion. Thanks for following and commenting. In the USA is means your bum Ive really enjoyed your videos, particularly the recommendation to weaken my right hand grip. I hit about 500 balls a week but feel I bring a different swing every outing. Could expectation management be key to lowering your scores? My big mis-hit is a push-slice or shank. Because of this new position over the chest I fell my irons should be flatter in order not to bend too much. Herman. Lol. I just never made the connection. When I was about 18, I had a wrist operation that afterwards made my wrist sore if I used my normal two-knuckle grip. Im currently an 8-9 but devastatingly inconsistent with my irons. Due to this reason, shaft-length will often be standard or slightly shorter than standard (1-2cm less than std) since the chest is bowed over closer to the ground and lie angle just be standard. Thank you! Eliminate swaying and lunging which rob you of distance and accuracy. If you each out instead of tilting, youll drop the glove. If you can consistently hook the ball with the hands turning over, then work on allowing the club to fall more behind you in downswing as the hips clear more aggressively. Im telling everyone i know who plays to watch them! I was having problems with a seriously closed clubface in my backswing and at the top. Look no further than the Leaning Tower of Pisa in Italy for a perfect example. Isnt low point therefore beneath left arm socket? As for the swing, I really just focus on keeping my arms straight to keep the club in front of me, make sure I tilt left going back so my head doesn't move too far to my right, and then coming down I try to get my body rotating fast. Just mentioning since it was a little uncomfortable to let a 6 iron shaft be right at belt buckle- felt like i would either go outside or had to open stance. Hi Herman! Then as the club is swung down the chest should be pointing again pretty much straight forward. Set the feet just barely wider than the hips, toes turned out about 5 degrees on each foot, and start to bow from the hip sockets as you also let the wrists drop. Your link has been automatically embedded. Watch the 2nd video starting at the 2:00 mark, no forcibly twisting of the lower spine. I don't care what guys say, [b]the way they describe the pivot, with right side extension and left side tilting was brilliant for me. It's simple and very informative. ProV1X. Could this be that I am not rotating my wrist fast enough or should I have a stronger grip or maybe its my hip rotation.. Longer irons I do not have this problem. With this grip I swing in-out and hit nice draws but occasional hooks.maybe a hosel here and there. You mean a golfer exists with a bigger chest than me? Been lucky to have played most of this winter. My left bicep hits my left pec and I physically can't move it any further. DGA3, Lynn Blake's forum has a ton of older posts on hitting (it's a pattern based in TGM). Required fields are marked *. I have a question regarding the position of the handle of the golf club. Watch approx 6 videos or so and have learned more than 4hrs of lessons from local pro. Randy, thanks for watching the videos and finding my site to leave a comment. Place yourself in a balanced, athletic position, with the ball in the centre of the club face. Really great explanations of the mechanics and cause/effect of doing things right or wrong. So ready to give up! Display as a link instead, Hey Herman, Herman. Thanks for the great video. We teach this on day one to every beginner we encounter, and they dont think this game is so hard to learn. Keep the left arm straight and across the chest as you slowly lower the arm until the butt of the club is straight out from your belt buckle, shaft horizontal to the ground, toe of club pointed straight up. We literally use the club as a yardstick to measure the body distance from the ball. It appears to me youve probably grown pretty accustomed to a strong-grip, closed face style of play with a flat swing plane. That sucks. The Tower is tilted 10 degrees (thats 17 feet off center at the top) and has been essentially unusable for most of its existence. My problem on the way down is dropping my right shoulder down too much instead of taking it out to the ball. I'm flexible: can do the seated toe touch, and can turn my shoulders 90 degrees from my waist. Squat Jump. What's right for one may not be for another. Your videos have greatly improved my game. This will allow the clubhead to move thru the ball on a virtually level arc versus hitting down too much as it might on an iron shot. [/quote] Staying centered has been critical for my improvement, it tightens things up in the backswing and allows for a shallower downswing. These images compare the movement and position on the backswing and follow-through when you throw a golf ball, swing one-handed and then two-handed. Sounds like you suck your arms inside , so they have no where to go . Ball - pro v1x that when you find it 1: Ball Position This is the most common mistake I see among amateur golfers. I am working on it though. This classic tip is designed to create the sensation of a proper golf. Wishon 929 HS 14.5*, 19* 0.5 Open Putter: TaylorMade TP Collection Juno (33). When I considered that, I thought - maybe she's right! I think it is also harder to keep your arms in front of you. Robert, no shortgame videos. Only you can judge if its worth that. I'm flexible: can do the seated toe touch, and can turn my shoulders 90 degrees from my waist. Thirdly when you arrive at top of backswing with the arm up on top of chest and elbow pointed down, you are in a stronger physical position to pull down with tricep and lat muscle. So he and co-author and pupil Simon Hawkins pieced together Now for the Back Nine. Dont worry so much about backswing for now. Titleist TSi 16.5 Graphite Design AD DI 7S The golfer is forced to roll the arms around the body which in turn opens the clubface and sends the club off plane. Promise. In order to look more conventional youre probably going to endure some pain along the way to reverse those habits. But here are a few things to check. I come from a softball background and always hit opposite field (late swing). Keep your balance throughout your swing, aiming for the middle of the club face more often. But, I have found something that that helps me make the coil easier. Are their set up or swing adjustments to make when thick chested? See What Members Are Saying! There are definitely advantages and disadvantages. Move to CT please!!! [*][color=#b22222][b][size=4]TP Mills Trad II Hand Forged [/size][/b][/color] It was all "around." The volunteers (not enough of them) didn't give a . The way you explain the golf swing is clearly the best available your tip on squaring but also uncocking the left hand at impact has transformed the way I impact the ball and resulted in a straight penetrating ball flight. Heres how to setup correctly for a right-handed golfer. I finally understand how to turn so the head stays centered and the shoulders are not too flat and I don't have to lift the arms. Herman. The beauty of this exercise is that you can easily throw a ball in the garden so next time you have a spare five minutes go outside pick up a ball and throw it. It was an aha moment and instant. making sure I'm turning my shoulders 90* to my spine. What I now realize is that turning my left arm to the two-knuckle grip position naturally gets my left arm on top of the pec and helps tuck the right should in as well, freeing up my back-swing. Thanks. As for the S&T, I learned a ton from that thread and have spent a lot of time reading it a couple of months ago. I played football at 238lbs, full back, and used to lift a lot. I actually hit the ball farther when I weigh about 225lb., which has been a while. You can find connection information from Jimmy Ballards work. If I try and get my hands past the ball at impactclub face wide open. (UK). . Peter Dawson, a prominent European Tour player in the 1970s and the first left-hander to play in the Ryder Cup, noticed a gap in the market for a coaching manual with tips for senior golfers. Never heard that term before. If I use a neutral gripmy club face arrives open. Ive tried to visualize an imaginary obstacle in front of me as I setup to the ball to see if I can get the same results, but it has not been particularly effective. In a perfect swing, the hips should rotate from the setup position, 45-degrees away from the ball on the backswing. . Thanks for the great site and videos. You cannot paste images directly. Herman. First, we need a great grip. When my shoulders turn 90 degrees, my arms can only get to the 9:00 position (looking heads-on, where 6:00 is at the ground and 12:00 is above the head). 1) If ball is too far forward, club path will already be coming back to the left and cutting across so ball will have cut spin on it. [quote name='Hstead' timestamp='1385096954' post='8188390'] Herman. Your knees should just crease slightly, no sitting or excessive bending. Always need good footwork and posture. Like this? What bothers me most now is the driver, could you talk more about how to set up and hit a driver/fairway wood. : 3 Wood: Callaway Rogue Sub Zero 15* w/ Hzrdus Yellow 6.5 76g Maybe that would help me not strike the ball behind me???? If you post a video more people will be able to help out. [quote name='Hstead' timestamp='1386383819' post='8261327'] Anyway, I have recently been looking at many more articles in an effort to get more distance, I am no slouch I have worked in the building industry all life and think I am reasonably fit for 58, I just stumbled on your videos and have watched them over and over and over in an effort to ingrain the moves, very interesting, properly explained and like what other people have said, no one has ever properly explained why and I was seriously thinking about quitting the game altogether, I am today going to try out all of what I have learned by watching your instruction and will keep you posted on the results, here is to hoping that at long last I have found someone who actually wants people to learn the game properly. All of the older guys I play with have lost a lot more flexibility than strength. Noticed a few things creeping in that I wanted to get my setup a little more structured. GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, April 24, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, April 17, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, April 10, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, March 27, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, March 20, Please put and questions or comments here, Please put any questions or comments here. There are definitely advantages and disadvantages. [/quote] Have your feet roughly shoulder-width apart keeping good alignment (don't bend knees in or out) Sit back like sitting on a chair whilst keeping your chest higher than the hips and exhale (breath out) as you jump up. My right shoulder sets up below the left, but my right hip is tends to get higher than the left resulting in either a vertical or reversed spine tilt. By What's my problem? Wishon 5, 6 560 MC 7-PW MMC MB Yrrdead - those are some great stretches. I think you are the thinking mans golf coach. Consequently, I only have about 1/2 of a backswing. Lord help me to be the person my dog thinks I am, [quote name='scotee' timestamp='1386387668' post='8261613'] [*][size=4][color=#008000][b]Ping G410 3 wood, Mitsubishi Diamana BF[/b][/color][/size] Otherwise, I setup open and hit pull hooks or if I compensate with open stance a push/slice . Matt Smith Early release is the only result, so no chance of any lag. Paste as plain text instead, Once the grip is established, make sure the lead arm (left arm for right-handed golfers) is sitting on top of the chest. The final step in our setup is to simply march over to the golf ball. : Everyone is advising me to stand up straighter but then I have to mover my arms to the sides of my pectoral muscles so that they can hang more freely in the more upright position..Do I stay more upright with my arms to the side of my chest or bend over farther with my arms on top of my chest? [/quote] Simply picture how the golf ball is in front of your body and the lead arm must also be in front of the body, not on the side. I have lost significant distance, consistency and golf balls trying to get flatter and deeper. Ive been trying for years to develop a consistent set up and swing and am every so grateful that Ive been hermanized. Maybe there are golfers (on Tour?) Herman, I pretty much have the same width thru the bag and then get just slightly wider for driver. G425 Max 9*o w/ RIP Beta Not exactly short and stocky though. But it should be said that I spend a lot of time each day stretching. One setup issue a I struggle with is spine tilt. Thanks a mill. As a result my teaching has grown accustomed to exaggerating for effect. yup, great stretches. Keep up the good work and I will continue to keep in touch. Consequently, my backswing is very short. Also make sure your clubs are fitted for you. My swing looked ok, but it too often felt like my gears were grinding as I tried to find the slot at the top of my back-swing. My shoulder is 46cm width. I would also say most bigger guys swing on a more upright plane, but that doesn't mean you have to be steep, you can be shallow and upright. My quick answer is bend over and tell those folks to leave you alone. Plus you are more connected to the big muscles of trunk. He Played at 225(5'11"), though he would spend most of his LD career at 240-245. Thanks so much for your great instruction.John,former P.G.A, Thanks John. Oh wait thats not correct. We test length with impact sensitive tape to determine where you hit the face. Try to talk to a good clubfitter if possible. Herman, I love this game and am just so frustrated that I cant get a consistent swing. If you are hitting it straight and getting a divot past the ball, keep going like you are. Hope this helps clear up some of the apparent conflict in the descriptions. Herman. Paste as plain text instead, A few things could be going on, so youll need to test one at a time in the following order. [/b] I cant seem to correct it. A centered golf ball, or just slightly left of center technically, gets the ball positioned where the club has a chance to strike it cleanly, and as is the case with the irons, continue to descend. I certainly didn't intend it that way, so perhaps I should phrase my problem differently . Next, well add to the setup by talking about preshot routine. I've been playing golf about 15 years and have been as low as an 8 handicap, but currently rest at 13. I find your point interesting regarding left hand placement ontop of my female chest. Since Im left handed that would be my right arm! I have a doubt regarding my stance. I am not sure what you are asking, but I think you are saying you don't like your backswing. Being Gumby isn't all its cracked up to be. That type of rolling for guys that start with their arm on their side promotes open clubfaces, laid off backswings, etc. I looked at this video and the gem of it is the left arm (tricep) on the left pectoral detail. I am 6", 36 wrist to floor and 225 lb. One more thing to pass on regarding getting yourself in the reverse K at setup. that's pretty big. But it should be said that I spend a lot of time each day stretching. . elbow pointed at body/tricep on chest dates all the way back to Ben Hogan in the 50s. I was fighting a slice and always felt I had a flaw somewhere that had to be addressed. Cant wait to apply this into my routine so all the other tips and compensations might not be needed. It's hard to do it through writing a reply. Be Better Golf BE BETTER GOLF. Only when I move ball out the 2inches or so. Thanks. But. I like that thinking mans golf coach. Ive always felt like you deserve to know why you are doing something beyond the standard reason my pro told me too. Its a lot easier to stay committed when you completely understand where youre coming from and where youre trying to go. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Try playing it back to improve the path, although now the face will need to release quickly to make it in time. How can low point of swing be in center of stance? My chest is thicker than average and after laying my arms over my chest in the set up I have to bend over farther than normal in order to get my arms to hang freely. Experienced, low-handicap players usually have this figured out, so its not a big deal. This has been a struggle. Herman, What should be the distance between my heels (stance wide) for iron 7, fairway wood and Driver? The target is going to be 225lb again. I wish I lived in NC so I could come take some lessons from you! My basic iron setup tries to align the shaft with the belt buckle picturing the shaft like a T-square with the leading edge of face perfectly square. Ive begun my yearly review of what I did last year; so I can be better this year. Holy crap. Barrel-Chested. I have a broad chest as well and lack proper external right shoulder rotation - you can either go 'up' toward the anterior like some have described, or you can stay in depth (and some width) with low hands and reverse loop a fade out of it. Ping G430 Max 10.5 Fujikura Ventus Velocore Blue 6X Thank you so much Herman. Thanks for commenting. Im having a hard time figuring out just one thing, if I were to stand straight up and point my club straight out from my belt buckle its 90 degrees, if I bend over with the exact position until the club hits the ground then it obviously isnt in the correct position because I would still be at 90 degrees. Hey Grant, Thanks for following my work. You can also let me know that Im overanalyizing this setup and that I should get a life and I will completely understand. Moving it back a little for these short irons may help you if thats the case. HighDraw, I am the other way around, played at 240 and now weigh 275 lol. I don't care what guys say, the way they describe the pivot, with right side extension and left side tilting was brilliant for me. If you have any suggestions to help my setup, particularly the hip issue, Id appreciate it. Another good visual with this is that in your transition you want your right knee working more towards your left knee and less towards the ball. Kind regards Rob. That being said, I think he could get away with a wider stance than most. Thanks a million. I appreciate the endoresement and glad to hear youre smoking those long irons. Pasted as rich text. Peter has generously given us a copy to give away. Elbows to chest In the clip, which you can watch in full below, Hogan suggests starting by making small swings, with your. Pasted as rich text. Sign up here for our newsletter and you'll never slice a drive again. Also upright is super comfortable for me because I have more room but it's not nearly as consistent and I tend to hit a lot more bad shots with hard to control distance because I'm so steep, Titleist TSR3 8* / Fuji Ventus Black TR 6X, Callaway Big Bertha Alpha 18* / Veylix Rome 988X, Edel SMS iron 4-5 / DG TI X100 ///// SMS PRO irons 6-PW / DG TI X100. [/quote] Good job Kevin and thanks for stopping by to comment. Always helps to post a video as well, so people with a better understanding of the swing can comment. Michael He was solid as a rock-. I finally understand how to turn so the head stays centered and the shoulders are not too flat and I don't have to lift the arms.

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