cartridge in recent conflict. The initial prototypes used the .50 AE cases which has a large pistol primer pocket. by Wicked Wed Jan 13, 2010 2:09 pm, Post All shooters are being inconvenienced with what is happening to our society and the rush it is causing on ammo supplies. If you are using a rangefinder and proper optics, there is no reason not to snipe with this load out to 200 yards. Anyone ever experience this sort of thing? If they arent, the shopping cart will not take your order. Last I looked, factory ammo is running $50+ for 20 rounds. The impetus was an informal ("beer and barbeque") discussion with a senior member of the US special operations community regarding the apparent lack of effectiveness of the 5.56 x 45 rifle cartridge in a recent conflict. An accurate bullet with the 458 SOCOM ogive profile makes for flawless functioning. We have found that the .458 SOCOM offers peak downrange performance when firing the purpose built Barnes 300 grain TAC TX bullet in the 1750fps - 1800fps velocity range. A coupla guys are interested - especially a good starting velocity if subsonic needs too fast a barrel twist. Mogadishu, Somalia that multiple shots were required to neutralize members of the opposing I'd probably Form 1 a titanium can. Its projectiles range from 250-600 grains and are loaded to both super and subsonic velocity. You dont have to invest in special, proprietary buffer weights or springs. there is a throat limit in the 458 SOCOM chamber where it will not accommodate some types of SBR continues the ballistic research to help take the 458 SOCOM cartridge to the next step as a fully developed CQB weapons platform. $49.99. PacNor will do a .458 barrel in a 6 groove 1:8 or an 8 groove 1:10. But the .458 is my home defense gun. This releases the four segmented mini cores into a radial pattern around the main projectile giving a MASSIVE wound. For hunting medium to large game, bullets in the 250 grain 400 grain weight range possess devastating killing power. Owning an AR-15 that is chambered in an off-beat cartridge has its . I currently live in south Texas (near sea level and temperate climate). Oh, hey, theres a complete rifle on the end of the rack with a shot-out bore. Get 12 Issues a year of the country's best firearms writing. When 30-50 people per day send emails asking for tracking information and we have to pull that information up, then type it out and email it, it takes a huge portion of our work day that we should be using to ship those orders to customers in need. Strictly Business. Impact velocity = 975 fps, resulted 14 inches into a BULLET TEST TUBE. The .458 SOCOM treads hard on its heels, but with a flatter (albeit still arcing) trajectory. That document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. The 458 SOCOM cartridge offers the practical ballistics of the legendary .45-70 in a modern AR platform rifle and is capable of firing 250 to 600 grain .458 caliber bullets in a lightweight, controllable package. The 300-grain round offers a muzzle velocity 1,900 fps. barrels at relatively short distances. This allows you abetter chance of destroying vitals. The cartridge itself is a powerhouse and was developed specifically to take down large, dangerous game, while still being usable from the M4/AR15 platform (a unique upper receiver would be needed). Building the .458 SOCOM takes only two caliber specific parts-a .458 specific bolt and barrel- Wilson Combat is further optimizing their .458 SOCOM rifles by adding an adjustable gas block, extra power action spring and straight gas tube as a standard reliability upgrade. If you then team it up with a suppressor like the Wilson Combat Whisper (which is built to withstand the .458 HAMR, so no worries about your .458 SOCOM), then you wont even need hearing protection. Slow factory 1-18" twist prohibits using any heavier long range bullets. The .50 AE and .499 LWR were ruled out because in 2000 only two bullets wereoffered in .501 diameter, both developed as pistol bullets for the .50 AE andnot heavy enough for the subsonic suppressed role. Get the latest news and reviews from Gundigest.com. by Jimmy_Jr Sun Apr 24, 2011 2:19 am, Post Its the standard rim diameter of the .30-06 family of cartridges, along with the 8mm Mauser and such. The somewhat faster pistol powders are preferable for the lighter 300grain range bullets, while slower burning powders work better with the heavyweights. by Mike1234 Tue Mar 08, 2011 2:45 pm, Post by. My 15" barrel Thompson-Center Encore pistol in 500 S&W Magnum launches a 385 gr Remington core-locked hollow point bullet at 960-1000 fps using a completely full case worth of Trail Boss powder. HARD CAST GC FN (1115 fps)20 Round Box. The requirements were simple: It had to be an upper, or a rebuild, thatd work on a standard AR-15/M16/M4 lower. The guns eat lead. If it is not in your spam folder, that means we have not yet shipped. It is a place to teach, to learn, and to collaborate and interact. It uses large pistol primers and slow-burning pistol powders or fast-burning rifle powders. I am beginning to wonder if they are becoming unstable after 75 yards. His loads have been successfully tested and used by others for more than 25 years. JHP (High Power) 160rds $ 331.99 Game animals. Item 47F----1075 fpsItem 47G----1115 fps, Item47G - Exterior Ballistics Charts for several Muzzle Velocities. 500 gr Subsonic expanding 458 socom Steve - 10/19/2019. ), Lee 90440 Round Ball Mold W/ Handles Each Double Cavity .451. The 458 SOCOM cartridge offers the practical ballistics of the legendary .45-70 in a modern AR platform rifle and is capable of firing 250 to 600 grain .458 caliber bullets in a lightweight, controllable package. For hunting medium to large game, bullets in the 250 grain- 400 grain weight range possess devastating killing power. The 300-grain (19 g) round offers a supersonic muzzle velocity of 1,900 ft/s (580 m/s) and 2,405 ftlbf (3,261 J), [1] similar to a light .45-70 but with a much smaller case. Building the .458 SOCOM takes only two caliber specific parts-a .458 specific bolt and barrel- Wilson Combat is further optimizing their .458 SOCOM rifles by adding an adjustable gas block, extra power action spring and straight gas tube as a standard reliability upgrade. It was developed by Marty ter Weeme, founder of Teppo Jutsu LLC in 2000. The 458 SOCOM uses a large pistol Right now, we expect you to do your part to help us all get the ammo we need in our troubled country. FREE SHIPPING - PURCHASE 12 OR MORE BOXES, As per popular demand, Buffalo Bore is introducing 7 new 458 SOCOM loads that will fill every possible need 458 SOCOM shooters may have. I love my .458 but it is very expensive to feed! Due to safety considerations and legal/regulatory reasons, Ammunition may not be returned. OK, big deal. (Thanks to Wikipediafor above paragraphs), (Note: Many are near maximum loads, you should use 10% less to start. by Artful Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:23 pm, Post Don't want an AR, Encore or other single shot and they are what's available chambered and still not fast enough twist. .458-405 GRAIN HOLLOW POINT- This bullets lead mushroom measures .550, and the jacket measures .600. Product Overview. The bullet is designed to perform optimally at subsonic velocities to ranges of 100 + yds with upto 3X expansion and nearly 100% weight retention. 20ga shell for comparison. http://www.bing.com/search?q=nuke50&7ADE&FORM=QBLH, Vintage Boxes - Gear, Shell, Case, Primer, Group Buys Design, Active , Waiting and Archives, Closed Buys/Waiting for delivery/in shipment, If this is your first visit, be sure to Minor machining has also been performed to the ejection port opening of the upper receiver to allow clearance for the larger cartridge. I grabbed a Brownells barrel and bolt off the shelf and looked for build candidates. More results: Previous Page 1 2 3 Next Page View All. Underwood Ammunition 458 SOCOM 500 Grain Hard Cast Lead Flat Nose Gas Check Subsonic Box of 20. We recommend this twist rate if you plan to use a suppressor to eliminate the chance of a baffle strike. Summers reach up to 105 degrees F and winters are generally mid 50's day and 30's night does get colder at times. Great for target shooting, plinking, weapon function testing or just breaking in the 458 SOCOM beast. + game animals. by T78m6b Wed Apr 27, 2011 2:31 am, Post The 458 SOCOM (aka: 11.5x40mm RB) is a large caliber cartridge designed for use on the AR15/M4 platform. Today, we are the leading manufacturer of factory loaded 458 SOCOM with over 22 different loads available. Bullets are seated out too far for revolver use. Then, plug the Brownells .458 SOCOM barrel into the upper, tighten the barrel nut (tight-loose-tight-loose-tight to alignment), install a gas tube into a gas block and then install that and tighten it into place. CIP is the counterpart to our SAAMI in the United States. Any updates on the VLD project? The .458 SOCOM was developed by Marty ter Weeme, founder of Teppo Jutsu LLC in 2000. Teppo Jutsu saw no need to change the primer pocket. The 458 SOCOM (aka: 11.5x40mm RB) is a large caliber cartridge designed for use on the AR15/M4 platform. Research had indicated thata short belted cartridge called the .458 1.5 Barnes had been adopted foruse in suppressed bolt action rifles for use in SE Asia during the VietnamWar. by johndoe3 Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:34 am, Post .458-405 GRAIN HOLLOW POINT- This bulletslead mushroom measures .550, and the jacket measures .600. Thanks, Sudboy Posted: 12/21/2019 11:36:14 AM EDT [#1] Quoted: including messages sent by autodialer. You can burn up a lot of ammo determining if the mags you have and are already using will play well with your .458 ammo and rifle. [SIZE=4][B]Selling Hi Quality Powdercoating Powder. This is achieved with a muzzle velocity 1050 fps. Minor machining has also been performed to the ejection port opening of the upper receiver to allow clearance for the larger cartridge. SBR continues the ballistic research to help take the 458 SOCOM cartridge to the next step as a fully developed CQB weapons platform. The Lancer 20 round 5.56 magazine holds seven SOCOM rounds and the 30 round 5.56 magazine will hold nine. ($3.65 per round) When we manually change orders it requires a lot of time that we do not have during this rush and it keeps us from serving all of our customers. by Wicked Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:05 pm, Post Satisfactory powders for 458 Socom subsonic: Bullseye, Unique, 2400 Unsatisfactory powders: 1. Marty contacted me, Buddy Singleton, at Southern Ballistic Research, LLC (SBR) in Brunswick, GA, and asked me to develop factory loaded ammunition for the 458 SOCOM. force led to the request to develop a new cartridge that would deliver far more energy from short Grab a scope out of the scope drawer, in its mount, and put on top. Literally 1/2 MOA at 50 same at 75. then 100.I am stumped. The Lancer 20 round 5.56 magazine holds seven SOCOM rounds and the 30 round 5.56 magazine will hold nine. In our opinion the .458 SOCOM has several design and performance advantages over the.450 Bushmaster and the .500 Beowulf including improved functional reliability and the use of a standard AR magazine. Muzzle Velocity: 1020 fps Field tests have shown to knock Whitetail deer to the ground with authority andinflictlarge exit wounds. and 30.0 gr. (10 Gauge Coach Gun), GRTools Reloading simulation software for free. Having the ability to easily adjust your gas volume allows the end user to fine tune their carbine's bolt velocity for a specific loads power. The Lancer 20 round 5.56 magazine holds seven SOCOM rounds and the 30 round 5.56 magazine will hold nine. The heavier than standard grain weight and subsonic speeds make this cartridge well-suited for use with suppressors. If youre shooting on a relatively short range, say a 25- or 50-yard backstop, the thump of the bullet hitting the hill might be loud enough that you want a bit of audio suppression. by Rikky Lee Sun Jan 31, 2010 2:45 am, Post Having the ability to easily adjust your gas volume allows the end user to fine tune their carbines bolt velocity for a specific loads power. Manufacturer #: 756. Product #: 243802. You can unsubscribe at any time by replying STOP or clicking 500 grain 458 hollow point with cut jacket. With this load, unlike our other sub-sonic load, I had to adjust my gas port to get the action to reliably cycle. the cartridge. Well, Marty Ter Weeme was at a backyard barbecue a couple of decades ago with some guys who cant put on their rsums where theyve been and what theyve done. Having the ability to easily adjust your gas volume allows the end user to fine tune their carbine's bolt velocity for a specific loads power. And magazines are simple: You use regular AR mags. The fragmenting design of these bullets reduce the chance of ricochet. by Wicked Tue Mar 08, 2011 2:07 pm, Post 458 SOCOM Subsonic Loads (Slow Heavy Hard Hitters! Then, clean the lube off for loading. The nose is an open tip design. History [ edit] For the heaviest-recoiling loads, youll also want to trim cases and apply a firm crimp along with good neck tension. After a lot of research and discussion, I have come to the conclusion that there's no case easily converted to do what I want. Details. by Valar Morghulis Sat Apr 16, 2011 4:04 am, Post All were rimmed or headspaced on the case mouth. MD Smith has had a storied career from his family broadcasting AM radio business, to his 36 year career in TV broadcasting. SBR has been the leader in factory .458 SOCOM production since its creation in 2001 and has continued to research and innovate in the ballistics testing and manufacturing of this high powered cartridge. Due to this it doesn't have as wide a variety of projectiles to choose from. Bullet wise right now I have a pile of 300gr Hornady JHPs, some Missouribullet 410gr coated, and I have lee dies for casting their 500gr. I'm looking at the SBR Ammunition suppressor and putting it on a 16" barrel with a 1:14 twist. Of course, all of these other cases soon outperform the .458 SOCOM as bullet weights get heavier since they have. Explore our articles, guides, and join our community to get started on your reloading journey today. Its also as big as you can make the AR-15 bolt face and still have enough locking lug metal left to be safe to shoot your rifle. . So, please do not email and ask if items are in stock. If our web site allows you to order any item, that means it is in stockWE DO NOT TAKE ORDERS FOR ITEMS WE DO NOT HAVE! Taylor Knock-Out Factor Calculations What it takes to knock-out big game. 458 SOCOM SUBSONIC HUNTING & SNIPING AMMO 500 gr. Bullet on right measures .750 diameter and penetrated 29 inches of 10 percent gel. The .458 SOCOM achieves optimum ballistic performance in barrel lengths shorter than 16 so there is no need for longer, less portable barrels.