But to restrict somebody and cut them off of their family is wrong. I think in a way the denial phase is actually over, meaning shes had 3 months to process it, and now shes starting to fight. She left a bag of pistachio nuts down on a low shelf, within reach of a 3 year old. They had intended to go but felt they couldnt after this. Two camps? Her reaction I think was justified in that her daughter could have died, but then she told Chris that he wasnt ALLOWED to talk to his family. His full birth name is Christopher Lee Watts. What memories [and resentments] might this have triggered in Chris Watts two months before the murders? In Touch Weekly has affiliate partnerships so we may receive compensation for some links to products and services. Cindy said they didnt go because she hated Shanann even back then, and was angry because Chris would not obey her wish for him to stop being with her. I just find it odd that shes been totally MIA in this investigation, one reddit user questioned. These men are what is know as Family Annihilators. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. This mother in law was rude to her the first time they met. Your Content is a nonprofit newsroom that investigates abuses of power. She probably didnt want to be part of the wedding party to begin with. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. We know because the babysitter told the police all this during her interview with them. It wasnt about killing his inner child but resurrecting it. Or read etc. Other than wanting to see a trial, its difficult to see him other than as a very tarnished and very pathetic character. They cant have been too bad then!!! A community to discuss the murders of Shan'ann, Bella, Celeste, and Nico Watts, who were murdered by their confessed killer, Christopher Lee Watts, now serving 5 life sentences at Dodge County Correctional Institution on Waupun, WI. And they can record all they want.. Cindy didnt kill anybody. 2021 Original Media Group Corporation. By clicking Sign Up, you agree to our Terms and Conditions and that you have read our Privacy Policy. They still should have been the bigger people and just attended the wedding and put up & shut up. Having said that, for CW parents to feel so strongly about Shannan that they didnt attend their own sons wedding then there must be a whole lot more to this that we dont know or understand. Chris just saw red and let his moms words take over.. Nathan Trinastich said he was acting strange on surveillance footage in Oxygens documentary Criminal Confessions. So an attack of Shanann [any attack] feels like an attack of who they are, and their belief systems. These cookies do not store any personal information. Shananns family are so nice and normal compared to Chriss. Save his life and life in prison to me, theres no difference. She didnt take away my son, I dont own him. Border agent dies and two others are gravely injured following a shootout in major drug smuggling corridor off the coast of Puerto Rico: Suspected Mystery surrounds Chinese jet crash a month after all 132 people were killed as report reveals NO faults in the plane, NO suspicions about Delco court covers for Judge Whelan in criminal case: His testimony raises a question, Prosecutor: Delco Judge Capuzzi locked public out of courtroom for fake news trial. When a person commits to being a bridesmaid, that includes showing up. Jump to Sections of this page This is, this is what I want. Locked post. i havent seen anyone bring her up or the fact that she even works at a hospital, or even as suspect for nicos murder but she def is in my book. There is right, and there is wrong. But she disregarded the allergies. Both were high powered women, both were the in charge types, both married passive, easy going guys who seemed to be OK with doing things their wifes way. Cindy Watts had a great hand in manipulating her daughter and husband to side with her against Shannan. We are not here to ask for leniency and are not in any way condoning or tolerating the crime that has occurred or the pain that has been caused their attorney read. Archived post. I think the whole family dynamics, along with the extended family, was just very toxic. Reliable enough to trust about nuts. I like your take on this. Its practically unheard of unless family is estranged and in this case I dont think any of them were. Be the first to know about the biggest stories as they break. Such a terribly sad case. Privacy Policy. Perhaps they also didnt think that it was that serious? She was, she was you and I know its so hard for you. They were heavy drinkers. The women had all drawn lines in the sand and that takes a toll on everyone, I think.. You are the first person who has suggested this. Proof is in the planning, deliberate smothering of his 2 little girls TWICE, and murder of tgeir mother and baby Nico.all planned weeks in advance. Its always about control with these women. Where the hell is she in all this? If only his wife had a clue he was this dangerous, she could have had a fighting chance to get away from him. Privacy Policy. Although both families essentially lived in the same town, they apparently did not know each other or regularly cross paths, so this would have been a valuable opportunity to get to know each other better, since the families would now be linked together via the happy couple. I think ,Chris killed his daughters because one of them saw their dead mother rolled up in their sheets. Shannan freaked out because Cindy had ice cream in the house. Cindy Watts did not put nuts in CeCes icecream. Those invested in the case have wondered why she has yet to speak out. Shannan seemed to be a great mom, was beautiful, kept a beautiful house, worked hard, and loved her son. I note from the discovery file she also had a troubled relationship with SW so it would interesting to know more. She even printed a special t-shirt for him to wear on Fathers Day, and took a picture of him wearing it. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Can I add that SW seemed like a classic shit stirrer too?? #crime #chriswatts #shanannwattsHis father is his hero and his best friend.shanann watts chris watts, true crime, watts family murders, jamie watts, cindy watts, ronnie watts chris watts, full story, chris, watts, prison mail, fan mail, nichol kessinger, shanann ,love letters, christopher, shanann watts, christopher watts, chris watts full story ,murders, murder, life,morbid minds, autopsy, watts family, confession, dr phil, he watts family homicides, interview, denver7 chris watts, chris watts confession interview, chris watts sentencing, interrogation,shanann watts videos, chris watts arrest, home search, documentary, chris watts neighbor camerahttps://reachableshop.com/https://www.instagram.com/reachableshop/Chris Watts rebellious sister Jamie drops Watts - Was loved by Chris Watts Wifehttps://youtu.be/6u1L9jeh434 Ronnie and Chris seemed to get this yet it ate away at something inside them so much they both resorted to extreme measures to ultimately cope: Ronnie cocaine and Chris murder. I heard the same theory on Websleuths that Chris Watts was actually murdering his mother. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Chris Watts, 35, has revealed details of his pregnant wife's murder in a bomb That is a losing battle. Chris had CeeCee on his shoulders and Shanaan was walking next to them. Many people dont understand the severity of nut allergies. I continue to be intrigued with the Lev-el MLM and their (or perhaps Shananns?) Ive written a trilogy of books about the Peterson case, and a trilogy on the Watts case, so the similarities are all too clear. He should get death penalty. And I think years of being just the nice guy to go along with everything and being bossed around and feeling so small like he didnt really have a say, Im sure had a profound impact on his mental health coupled with the fact that he allegedly wasnt excited to have another baby and didnt really love being a dad as much as he claimed. August 1, 2018: Chris Watts' First Day in North Carolina #1yearagotodayCW. Divorce would have left them all with new lives. Id fight. I do not condone the murders but i can see why this terrible disaster happened. We know in the months leading up to the murders, for Fathers Day [June 17th, 2018] Shanann posted pictures of her father on her wedding day. This really upset Bella and she went crying to the v reliable and intelligent babysitter about it. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Your email address will not be published. Chris Watts got flowers for me yesterday for fun, Shanann Watts says on Thanksgiving Day. Cindy insisted her son is not a sociopath and justice had not been served. I think they were allowed video calls, though. Copyright 2015 - 2021 Original Media Group Corporation. https://www.websleuths.com/forums/search/2228646/. Does the we refer to Ronnie and Jamie Williams [Chris Watts sister] as well? Chris Watts: Voted most likely to succeed in the Class of 2003 But notice that, in the wake of NutGate, Chris commented to ShanAnn that she had put a dagger between him and his *father*. the person who gave him the oxy had to be in his family since he said hed take whoever it was to the grave. She works with patients in home care. Well that maybe true according to Cindy however please explain the 80 bridal invitations that never got mailed in the attempts to embarrass Shanann with no one showing up. I bet so was Chris mom. I thought it was odd. On that day Shanann posted a picture of her own mother for Mothers Day, gave credit to her husband for getting her the perfect Mothers Day gift, and also posted a cartoon dedicated to all the important women in her life but nothing on Cindy Watts. That has got to hurt, though, if Chris Watts and Shananns big day was all about Shanann, and Chris family werent even there. The WCNC reporter says a word in response to the no-show by the Watts family at their sons wedding. Asking her mom about shanann not loving Chris etc. CHILLING footage shows the moment triple-murderer Chris Watts stops to buy breakfast on the morning he disposed of the bodies of his wife and children. And for those who say, Cindy Watts was a witch! She had many faults within herself. 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Part 5 is here: https://youtu.be/sjHc-ijQjXUWhy is it that Chris Watts's parents (Cindy Watts and Ronnie Watts) and and his sister (Jamie Lyn Williams) treat. We support you 100%. She was smart and beautiful and had family, she didnt need him. Think of Ahab and Jezebel from the Bible. I would never go by myself with my children to visit such a vicious woman like Cindi. Havent you held a grudge against anyone, ever? Yeah Gabby, and it sure is too bad that we cant clear this all up and move on well we can, but Shanan, CeeCee and Bella cannot because Chris Watts choked them to death. Are additional videos available of Chris with other visitors to prison? Both these families, had multiple discord amongst them all. She waited for that opportunity to do something so evil and ugly when nobody was around to see it. After Chris admitted to the murders, Ronnie and Cindy each gave statements to the court. Cindi is truly an evil psychotic person. and our Does the "we" refer to Ronnie and Jamie Williams [Chris Watts' sister] as well? Chris Watts book Chris Watts' sister Jamie Watts. Jamie Watts Williams job connection to nutgate Am I the only one that finds it strange that Jamie is a respiratory therapist? Im not going to name them. Oh Remember when we were at the splash party in Colorado? He never expected to be seriously challenged because everyone liked him and Mommy thought he was perfect. Cindy Watts probably pressured her not to partake. I wish I could ask you more, Cindy murmured. We also use third-party cookies that help us analyze and understand how you use this website. Was Shannan a saint? He wanted his own wild child to have another run around the paddock. Agree with all of the above. [UPDATED] | True Crime Rocket Science / #tcrs, Yes, there is a way to test whether bodies could be placed through the Thief Hatch with [or possibly without] breaking bones but youre not going to like it. If this is indeed his sister, she knew about his affair with Nickole Sessinger prior to the murders. Isnt it a shame we have to actually defend 2 little girls and their pregnant mommy, after their daddy put them unconscious (no reason to believe they were dead since he didnt kill them the first time) and drowned them in crude oil? Did Chris Watts not mind his wife Shanann humiliating him on Facebook? Likewise, Chris has a sister named Jamie Lyn Williams. This nightmare has to be over for everybody.. I think Cindy probably encouraged Jaime to not send them or even throw them away. During her sons trial, Cindy added, I have always loved you and I still do. By no means am I justifying his actions. I dont care if this man is her son. "Featuring Chris Watts, His Parents Cindy & Ronnie Watts and Sister, Jamie Lyn Williams, who - until now - managed to remain the MOST SECRETIVE and SILENT FIGURE in terms of the two. I definitely was watching Chris body language, and at that point in time, he definitely could have been freaking out because his wife was gone and his children were gone, but I just personally thought the way he was acting was a little strange, he said. But one way or another theyre coming out. I want to know why Shanann didnt think something would go horribly wrong visiting her in-laws without Chris being there. Chilling. Her only mistake was marrying into a toxic family. The one with Bella at the splash pad where she was wrapped up in a blanket. The sister Jamie said she couldnt get off work to attend the bridal party events prior to the wedding. CW had tended to side with Shanann against his mother until not long before the horrendous murders. Quite a start huh? So Cindy Watts didn't attend her son's wedding. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. If they got along great, then thats a possible theory. Im familiar with Chris parental dynamic, where the father is the pussy, enabling his wifes narcissism. Thats just not factual at all. I feel like he thought hed have better chances of getting away with it after that is if he took his kids life away too. Nick has a pic on this site with him in a baseball uniform. Chris sister, Jaime (at least its likely his sister), addresses briefly some of these very topics in a forum a couple months ago. Its all in Chriss interview after the conviction and sentencing. Do your research. She looks horrible by what she said in the interview and sandi rzucheks letter in discovery of what went on. And you will., It is [hard], killer Chris Watts replied. I think that alot of the animus was the gaslighting of the invitations for the engagement party. Cindy Watts mouth turns upside down when she speaks of Shannan in videos. My Sister's Closet Suzanne Singer Mr. & Mrs. William . Those invested in the case have wondered why she has yet to speak out. Then to as far as I am aware, there was a baby shower, that Cindy and Jamie had for Shanann, I,ve seen pictures of it. Chris Watts 'rebellious' sister Jamie drops 'Watts' - Was loved by Chris Watts Wife TV NEWS 1.38K subscribers Subscribe Share 20K views 3 years ago #ShanannWatts #ChrisWatts #Thrive Chris. and our Now we know why. Border agent dies and two others are 'gravely' injured following a shootout in major drug smuggling corridor off the coast of Puerto Rico: Suspected smuggler also dead after two Americans arrested. Chris Watts was clearly seen by his folks to be a perfect member of society, loved and liked by all [just like Scott Peterson]. No way his mother would have said that crap. John List is the best known example of this, but there are many others. Sign up for breaking news email alerts from Your Content. What if he married Shanann because, in some strange way, she reminded him of his mom? Frankie William Rzucek By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. His father was the disciplinarian in the family. I just wished you would have talked to us more.. That likely would have changed everything. No, thats not quite right either. The conversation spiraled out of control when Cindy claimed 3-year-old Celeste was a spitting image of her father, who brutally murdered her. Your comment fully reveals how humans can distort and exaggerate most of what they hear. I also dont think she would have said she would tell about his affairs. At 58 seconds in the clip below Cindy Watts seems to have made peace with the fact that her son killed Shanann: CINDY: He did kill her uh[chews gum]but for the kids, no. Granted I was only 15 when I married but I was married 20 years but we still had a great relationship until she passed, and I have 1 daughter-in-law and its the same way. But to just not send them? 11 mo. [She looked so] serious. It was related to the small child of a girlfriend. I believe that is where he got the idea of blaming Shannan. Watts confessed to brutally murdering his pregnant wife Shanann, 34, and children Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3. I do think it was horrible that they didnt go to the wedding. Same year Shanann and Chris filed for bankruptcy. Necessary cookies are absolutely essential for the website to function properly. Kathleen. Shes fighting because its her son. If you are familiar with this movie then you know the main character kills his wife after she kills their children., I believe that is where he got the idea of blaming Shannan.. Ditto, Nan. For some of them they have a lot at stake in defending Shanann, theyre currently up to their eyeballs in their own MLM stuff, and theyre terrified of losing the gold mine they think this case has created for them. Just Like you. Any cookies that may not be particularly necessary for the website to function and is used specifically to collect user personal data via analytics, ads, other embedded contents are termed as non-necessary cookies. I think it makes more sense the theory if CW hated his mother and transferred this hate onto Shanann.. Just not now. You usually tell that person and give them the option of asking someone else. CW's sister Jamie Throughout all my reading of the case I've never seen much about his sister Jamie (who I believe was Jamie Watts Williams according to SW's fb). But couple all those angry feelings and then having to pay attention to 2 toddlers and work a taxing job, have a wife who is not really a good match for you who wants to separate you from your familyif he wasnt the type for this kind of lifestyle I could see how that would drive someone crazy. Shannan was a threat to the Narc Family. Talking about his family, Chris's parents are his mother Cindy Watts, and his father Ronnie Watts. i believe it was 100% premeditated by the family to give shannan the pills. He decided not to create waves. It wouldnt surprise me if Cindy Watts talked to Chris after the nut explosion and said Look, I am so sick of Shanann and those girls, if you dont divorce her or just get rid of her then I will tell her about your affair. You were the kindest, kindest person there ever was, the mother continued. The Mother-in-law never saw the post about the nuts that she did on Facebook. My thoughts are just that its a pretty big deal not to go to a wedding so it would be interesting to get all the facts. Firstly, in the Casey Anthony case, Caylee died the day after Fathers Day. One of the primary activities at a wedding is to enable the two sides of the family to meet and get to know each other. JAMIE was the rebellious child in the family. You, me, Ronnie, Jamie, all of us will get through this together, because we love you so much, Cindy Watts whimpered. Out of these cookies, the cookies that are categorized as necessary are stored on your browser as they are essential for the working of basic functionalities of the website. His father would not use physical discipline, but would raise his voice. They already proved that chick to be a fake. That isnt even what happened. If shed given Shannan a chance for the love of her son things may have been rosier. Shanann tried to involve these in laws from hell. It doesnt end here. Nonetheless why risk it? They jabbered on and on and on AND THE WHOLE THING WAS CAUSED BY THEIR GOOD-FOR-NOTHING SON!!!! His father Clifford Entwistle has just written a book saying hes innocent, they watched the movie Shutter Island the first night they had sex. I understand you might not like your mother in law and your mother in law very well could be a shrew, terrible woman like Cindy. The one where Cici had turned around and I got a really good close up picture of her and I used that, 64-year-old Cindy said. [Ten years later the Anthonys are still fighting to keep their home]. They even believed it was justified. Its a shame that his family couldnt just roll with it for the sake of Chris. Wow.boga.you must strictly be on shananns side. bothered him. If you look at her while she is saying that here head is moving side to side, that usually indicates that someone is lying. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. But he was afaird to speak up..why Shanann Its so difficult for me to fathom not getting along your, Ill just call it same-sex in-law because it happens in both cases. Am I to assume that you are the author of Cindys book? Chris Watts Sister Jamie Watts-Williams Tarot Reading 1,156 views Mar 17, 2021 Insightful Carrie 2.34K subscribers Dislike Share Join this channel to get access to perks:. Shanann got the wrath that was really meant for Mom-Watts. She was pretty controlling. But I think shes was the Root of all Evil. If you dont get a chill, then I must be out to lunch. Nothing special. I saw an interview with one of Chris Watts former mistresses, not Nichol but the one before her. That said, Im not sure I understand the camp [besides the family] who are championing the cause of Chris Watts. Exclusive Visit with the Colorado Killer Chris Watts and His Last 3 Living Relatives.The exclusive also showcases Watts' sister, Jamie Lyn Williams, who mana. To just throw them away? Watts Family Tapes The Event ONLY on YouTube and Facebook October 23rd 9-11pm EST Add the event to your calendar here:. In Touch Weekly is part of the a360media Entertainment Group.Copyright a360media 2023. His mother worked as a secretary and notary for a used car dealership. Didnt attend what? I also do not think it is uncommon for a person to choose a spouse who mirrors the opposite of their personality. They just cannot stand this woman including her own son, Hi Beth, well to begin with. For me, this revelation enmity between Shanann and Cindy Watts reminds me of two aspects in two other cases.

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