Trajectory for Custom .243 90 TGK #4103 AMMO at 3200 Feet per Second, Ballistic Coefficients of: 0.39 0.37 0.33 0.33 0.33, Velocity Boundaries (Feet per Second) of: 2720 2040 2040 2040, Wind Direction is: 3.0 oclock and a Wind Velocity of: 10.0 Miles per hour, Wind Components are (Miles per Hour): DownRange: 0.0 Cross Range: 10.0 Vertical: 0.0, The Firing Point speed of sound is: 1120.27 fps. At 400 yards a 75-grain V-Max launched at 3,300 fps and zeroed at 200 yards drops just an inch more than a 55-grain V-Max from a 22-250 Rem. 200 Yard Zero. Initial POA/POI is at 36 yards, but now, the difference is .5 inches at the 50. While having a chunky projectile is a nice improvement over the standard 5.56 cartridge, it does mean that you lose some muzzle velocity. Because a 200-yard zero is more versatile. This gives me +1.5" at 100 yds. ok a lot depends on the setup but for the bullet traveling at a mv of 2950 thats a heck of a lot of drop over 50 yds. There is a chance my use of this terminology is not the accepted use by most folks. I have been checking various ammuntion, store brands and handloads, in my SteyrMannlicher carbine and a friend's Merkel K1 Stutzen, both with 20-inch barrels. Copyright GunData.org 2015 | Koenig Media, LLC | Links | Sitemap | Advertise. So with a 200 yard zero, a hunter can hold dead on from 0 to 257 yards and kill the animal, assuming he does his part and fires an error-free shot. One must take barrel twist into account depending on the type of 243 Win cartridge that is fired. A three-inch vertical error still gives you a killing strike in the ribs of big-game animals. While there are high velocity and low-velocity rounds for each cartridge, both of them exhibit supersonic speeds out to 500 yards. In the example shown, the .243 user can shoot upto 244 yards Dec 1, 2016. Steve has been a hunting junkie his entire life. This is what we mean by "flat shooting." As you can see, the 200-yard zero is very effective, and if your target range will accommodate it, great. My technique for shooting is to zero at 26 yards (if using the .270 noted above), then shade slightly low (an inch or two) when shooting at 100 yards, and hold slightly high at 300. The TGO logos and all content presented on this site may not be reproduced in any form without express written permission. . While the 200-yard zero does carry bullets to about 235 yards before they fall 4 inches from point-of-aim, it also puts 4.5 inches high at 100 yards to 125 yards. You mentioned 25 yards? All three cartridges used a 100 yard zero. Compare ballistics data on your favorite Winchester Ammunition rounds. The 50 yard zero certainly works for quite a few applications and there are plenty of other zeros for other weapon system and target combinations. Thanks everyone. Developed in 1976 by Ken Waters as a wildcat cartridge, the 7-30 Waters is based on the .30-30 Winchester necked down to 7mm to improve velocity and trajectory, with a significant drop off in felt recoil. Thats interesting info kent, I have had a play with a few 75gr BT's and found them a lot flatter shooting, so I may just start playing around with themIf only PRVI made 75gr 243's! Depends on what round you're firing. Jul 13, 2016. A 200 or 300 yard zero will include adjustment for drop, environmental conditions, as well as a correction for any wind. The final 223 Remington ballistic chart shows 64 grain Winchester SilverTip rounds with a 100 yard zero. Just make sure to know your drop if shooting over 2. Plenty good enough for boiler room shots but if I was to contemplate head shots at 100 yds I would reset the scope to be spot on at that distance. Using ballistic software downloaded from Remington.com, I manipulated the zero range input data until it was optimized for the greatest point-blank range. 1" low is only possible if he has a very canted mount set up, though i doubt it still (but like most he has probebly never shot that sort of range much and it all is in his imagination). In all seriousness, zero your rifle at 100 yards, get a man size cardboard target and set it up at 200 yards and 300 yards. For some calibers, the bullet will drop 2 feet from a 200 . Pro's: this affords the shooter the longest range. Today, youll find the versatile 243 Win with a bullet in one of two weight classes: 55-85 grains, which is suitable for rodents up to coyote, and 90-115 grains, like 100 grain Remington Core-Lokt 243 ammo. God knows why, I always go for the heart at that distance and very rarely miss it, so the head should be on, I'm just not easy with it! Draw a dot on the head, aim at that and shoot it. Like i say though there are more reason why, but ballistic programs do not hold all the answers and to repeate myself aint "gospel" so your kind offer of help is unlikely to help someone who won't do it "the old fashioned way", sorry to disapoint you,I didnt say I group 2 inch at 200 yards I do that at 500 yards with my 243,enter the real time correct data into a good ballistic programme your either bang on the money or a little fudging of the bullet BC to compensate, the old fashioned way is alwasy best to final test your data, no ballistic programmes dont hold all the answers you have to feild test as well,put **** in and get **** out, sorry to disapoint you I didnt say I group 2 inch at 200 yards I do that at 500 yards with my 243,enter the real time correct data into a good ballistic programme your either bang on the money or a little fudging of the bullet BC to compensate, the old fashioned way is alwasy best to final test your data, ah, is this why the MOD do it wrong because you say so and so does you computer. Hi folks. But I like to stay with the 6-inch rule of thumb because is allows for some shooter error, an occurrence that youd be naive to assume doesnt happen while in field positions shooting at wild game. And at that distance, youd better be looking at a broadside animal thats not moving, because the kinetic energy of your 100 grain .243 bullet is down to 880 ft. lbs. The Basic start used by British snipers is to gather what is termed "real world" data 100 mtrs to 1500 mtrs then the same 100-1500 in yardage in thier log book for thier individual rifle and record it. Starting at 2700 and 2600 fps respectively, their velocities maintain about 100-200 fps difference all the way out to 1000 yards. THE 200-YARD ZERO Sighting in your high-power deer rifle at 100 yards is a waste of a perfectly good flat trajectory. Sierra SBT GameKing 2960 link to 6.5 Creedmoor VS .308 Winchester (Ballistics and Accuracy), Step 1 Install your rifle scope properly and securely, Step 2 Adjust the scope to the proper eye relief (distance from your shooting eye to the rear of the scope), Step 3 Make sure the rifle and crosshair reticle are level, Step 5 Fire a 3-round group at 25 yards to find your starting point of impact, Step 6 Adjust the scope settings to move the point of impact to zero, Step 7 Fire 3 more rounds at 25 yards to test, Step 8 Adjust the scope settings again if need be, Step 9 Fire another 3-round group at 100 yards, Step 10 Fine tune the scope crosshairs to make the bullet point of impact 2.7 at 100 yards. After my own trip through bootcamp, I learned that there are precious few instances when youll need anything beyond a 25 yard zero, even for a .243. So long as your target isn't much over 100 yards, that is. i use 100gn siera gamekings in my 243 doing about 2950fps, for stalking purposes I zero at 150yds, I use it at the range quite a bit and have played about to see how much a bullet drops, zero at 100yds then moved back to 200yds and the bullet drops between 4 and 5 inches, then at 300yds it drops about 8 more to 13 inches, not tried 400 or 500 but at 600yds the bullet drops a total of 88 inches, i suspect this is not a chroned 2950 as taking the middle ground of 4 1/2 " low at 200 seems to great a drop from a 150 zero. With a .243, 1.5" to 2" high at 50 yards should put you in the ballpark at 200 yards using 100 grain bullets. To me all this zeroing high is gobbledeegook (zero means zero)not zero +1" etc. Just make sure you don't go cheap on the scope. Frankly, he is an amateur at best. A Our first 243 Winchester ballistic chart from Remington shows 75 grain Premier AccuTip-V with a 100 yard zero. Redgum, What is MPBR (Maximum Point Blank Range)? Now that you have your rifle and scope zeroed for 25 yards, you are ready to add distance. The latest way appears to be an app called CamoSpace, designed specifically for members of the hunting community. Quickly thereafter, the cartridge won fans worldwide. because zeroing at 1" high at 100 is easier than zeroing at 217 yards 7inches ive always zeroed all my rifles 1"high at 100 yds , no mater what the calibre ! As a few have said head shots are not ideal I'd suggest if its the only shot you take then get a lurcher as you will need it at some point to clear up the mess you get yourself into. And thats a small enough margin for error to make quick clean kills on most North American big game. then actually try changing your hold on a zeroed rifle from a hard to medium then free recoil. Share. It was a practical, but not mathematical zero. Ah , missed the bit about zeroing high at 100. Its no secret that I love the .243 Winchester caliber rifle cartridge. Open now : 09:00 AM - 12:00 AM. Dont worry, Uncle Zo only writes about, and promotes, products or services that hes personally purchased, used, and believes in. in about 1.1 inches high at 50 yards or better yet, move out to 100 and try for 2.6 inches high, or even better yet, move to 200 yards and try for 2.0 inches high. We are not shooting paper at 200 yards with a 50 yard zero. I have found the charted 3.3" drop to be about right. Before engaging in any transaction of goods or services on TGO, all parties involved must know and follow the local, state and Federal laws regarding those transactions. A However, remember that we are comparing a 100 grain .243 Winchester against a 125 grain .308 Winchester. Unless I misunderstood, which is quite possible. NTX 83176 2050 1450 1070 145 72 39 -1 5 0 -156 0 This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. back out to 100, adjust to either dead on or 1 inch high at 100. (It is physically impossible to produce a 200 yard near-zero with any of the commonly available loads and barrels lengths used in .223/5.56mm AR-15s.) You would need to pack some sort of powder into a 243 case to get a 100gr bullet to go quick enough to only drop 2inchs at 100yds surely. This is the site where we share all of that hard-earned hunting info. He is not a professional hunter, survivalist, self defense instructor, firearms instructor, or competitor. Don't believe me? never has such a thing been considered good practice at anything other than dispatch range in culling pens etc. What does that mean? I should chrono these rounds mate they might not even be deer legal, Hey guys the thing is drop don't mean a whole heap when you consider that a full value 10mph gust is going to move .243" bullets near enough 5" sideways, so even a mere 5mph gust is gonna move you near as makes no matter as your 200 drop and a more usual highland breeze of 15-20mph is going to push that pill sideways 7- 10" . Balistic program data is never ever gospel though it only starts your dope data gathering process the "old fashioned way" as you put it is always essential. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue. It is possible to get pretty close to a 200 yard zero while using a rifle zeroing target at 50 yards. The Ballistic Coefficient for the .243 Winchester 95gr is 0.40 (in this example). If you want to be zeroed at 150 yards and have access to a range that is only 100 yards long, then sight the .17 HMR to be about 1.7 inches high at 100 yards. Someone enlighten me! The more we all know, the better organized and stronger the shooting and hunting community will be. Therefore, with a 26-yard zero, you can hold on the target and expect to hit a 6-inch vital zone from 0 to 310 yards. Get a closer look at the Smith & Wesson Model 350, the latest addition to our #SundayGunday series. Each ammo shoots differently. If you want to be accurate out to 500 yards, 3 inches high would be even better. Zeroed at 200 yards, the bullet drops less than 7 inches at 300 yards and still has nearly 1,400. For example, assuming we can consistently shoot 1 MOA groups with rifle and cartridge at 250 yards the smallest engage-able target with the 75 grain load would be about 4.63 (2.13 for trajectory deviation plus a 2.5 group size) in diameter. Your bullet is going to drop an additional 4.3 inches below the 200-yard impact point traveling across that additional 50 yards. The 243 Win's muzzle velocity hinges on its bullet weight. Maybe this is what he meant, as opposed to actually beng bang on. That is a 200 yard zero, not a 1" high zero at 100 yards, frankly I also think it is ********, I don't know any .243 with that 100-200 yard performance! Once his daughters were able to go hunting, he relearned why he love hunting so much. The 243 Wins muzzle velocity hinges on its bullet weight. Lets explore that using the external ballistics data of a bolt action rifle chambered for .30-06 Springfield with a sight height of 1.5 shooting a 178 grain ELD-X Precision Hunter cartridge from Hornady. hb```". ea$z%3lp!"=4t;N04nR``XLk(+tdg8$u!#m;?4T D!A(c.NV'5,YYaLc bW)O$,X!Z iF btzS&BU1 | a large deer kill zone is about a 12" max diamiter circle so a small amount of off zero will still harvest the deer. Tennessee Gun Owners (TNGunOwners.com) is the premier Community and Discussion Forum for gun owners, firearm enthusiasts, sportsmen and Second Amendment proponents in the state of Tennessee and surrounding region. Does this change if the same rifle is zeroed at 200 yards? Sighting in at the elevations I suggested would put you in a 6 inch kill zone out to about 285 yards. This bullet has an initial velocity of 3100 fps, and is pushing 2027 lbs of force. Bottom line is 50/200 yard zeros are very usable for many applications. Agree, both .223 and .243 1" high at 100yds. even if your expected quarry will be inside that 90% of the time. think i am talking pants? And so on. This weight is more appropriate for whitetail deer and other small-medium sized game. Not generally used for self-defense. 9 0.243 .243 Win Cartridge BlackHills .243 dia. endstream endobj 9567 0 obj <. Round-nose bullets throttled to 2,700 fps or so (.22 Hornet, .25-20 Win., .30-30 Win.) Trajectory for Custom .243 90 TGK #4103 AMMO at 3200 Feet per Second At an Elevation Angle of: 0 degrees Ballistic Coefficients of: 0.39 0.37 0.33 0.33 0.33 Velocity Boundaries (Feet per Second) of: 2720 2040 2040 2040 Wind Direction is: 3.0 o'clock and a Wind Velocity of: 10.0 Miles per hour Your mileage may vary. However, I firmly believe it should be referred to as a 200 yard zero (and actually zeroed at that distance) that provides a usable, but approximate, secondary zero at 50 yards. Low recoil is the .243 Winchester's claim to fame, but vs the 6.5 Creedmoor's long range performance and wind-defying ballistic coefficients the 6.5 has become the new caliber darling of the day. After all, this is the distance that most rifle ranges are geared to let you practice. The 243 Win is an exceptionally accurate round, in part because its low recoil prevents flinching. As for the trajectory, with a 100-yard zero, the bullet drops -2.4 at 200, -9.5 at 300, and -21.9 at 400. 9566 0 obj <> endobj Because of this, Id suggest that the farthest range you should attempt to kill deer-sized animals with a 100 grain .243 bullet is 400 yards. Ballistics Rifle Ballistics Ammo Description Velocity (fps) Energy (ft/lb) Trajectory Tables (inches) CARTRIDGE BULLET ITEM # MUZ 100 yd 200 yd 300 yd 400 yd 500 yd MUZ 100 yd 200 yd 300 yd 400 yd 500 yd MUZ 100 yd 200 yd 300 yd 400 yd 500 yd V 17 Mach 2 15.5 gr. As I mentioned earlier, a 25 yard zero for a .243 is just about the best zero you can have for practical hunting purposes. Maximum Range (yd) Maximum 2000 yards; Minimum 0. Send more rounds. Zero Range (yd) Must be a number greater than 0. . This is correct but depends on your cartridge and bullet weight. But after 203 yards it falls below the 6-inch vital zone. With this in mind I was having a chat with a fellow hunter on a cull earlier in the year, he was using 100gr softpoints and reckoned that zeroing at 1 inch high at 100yds would give him bang on at 200yds. If you zero at 100 that gives a little over 3" drop at 200 which still is pretty much point and shoot but not ideal to most. Much has been written on the ideal distance to zero a hunting rifle. Is the 6.5 Creedmoor vs .308 Winchester even a debate worth pursuing? The 243 will kill deer a lot further away than 350 yds. 9599 0 obj <>stream 9588 0 obj <>/Filter/FlateDecode/ID[]/Index[9566 34]/Info 9565 0 R/Length 107/Prev 365971/Root 9567 0 R/Size 9600/Type/XRef/W[1 3 1]>>stream My technique for shooting is to zero at 26 yards (if using the .270 noted above), then shade slightly low (an inch or two) when shooting at 100 yards, and hold slightly high at 300. At 55 grains, its bullet achieves 3,910 fps; at 100 grains, 2,960 fps. Ballistic Charts & Data June 30, 2021 March 15, 2023. It makes it a lot easier to find ammo. Uncle Zo sometimes publishes affiliate links and advertisements, which means that if you click on a link and buy something, Uncle Zo might receive a percentage of the sale, at no extra cost to you. TGO makes no claims, guarantees or assurances regarding any such transactions. Powered by Invision Community, http://www.federalpremium.com/products/details/rifle.aspx?id=216. Firstly head shots! giving you a 4 inch kill zone. You will shoot 3-5 bullets at the target and examine your results. I never did the math, and thanks to you, I dont have to. Redding Reloading Equipment has added a New 3-Die Set for the 300 HAMRa bottleneck cartridge based on a modified .223 Remington case necked up to 30-caliber. Once you learn the bullet drop, then you are left with windage which is the hard part in open country. Apr 14, 2009. Context matters. Now you know what your come ups need to be. More than six decades on the market means a great variety of rifles available. Mag., and the more recent 6mm Creedmoor, 27 Nosler, and 7mm Remington Ultra Magnum, the drops are even greater. I think its important to note that its harder to find shooting ranges with rifle shooting lanes that go out beyond 100 yards. A 270. with a 150 grain bullet sighted in at 25 yds.will be about 2" high at 100 yards and about 1.5" low at 250 yds. The big difference is the 243 slug will be carrying 247 f.p. To explain if we both shot equally as good with the same individual gun yet it was zeroed by just one of us at 100 yds although our groups might be equal our precise zero point wouldn't be and this would also show in trajectories. A .243 is flat at 200 yards, but at 500 yards the bullet will drop . Which one is Primary and which is Secondary zero now? The bullet energy is comparable, but the weight makes a difference in stopping power when it . The .243 is a flat shooter and according to . When I learned the 50/200 it was for M4 and or carry handle iron sights and then Red Dots. . The trajectory of a 55gr .243 round at 4000 odd fps is very different to a 100gr at 3000 fps. Other riflemen who routinely hunt areas where shots of 300 yards or more arent uncommon sometimes opt for a 200-yard zero. What that means is,. However I have to say that I am not good enough to even consider head shooting deer. 95 gr. 243 vs 223 Ballistics. A few inches + or at those distances with a 50 yard zero will still take out a human sized enemy. Targets at a 100 yards would get a slightly high impact. Edit - the 6 inch low is what I experience with my BLR 243. Lets take a look at what this popular deer and hog hunting round is capable of through an analysis of 243 ballistics. For most rifles, a 25- to 28-yard zero (depending on the caliber's velocity and bullet's BC) will maximize its point blank range.

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